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Predictions for 2020

Predictions: 2020
The USMC will adopt Lululemon PT uniforms.
The new trend in flash mob performances will be speed metal rock and mosh pits.
“Duck face” will be required on all passport photos.
Amtrak will open new lines and reinvent itself using popular themes. All northern lines will Polar Express trains. All southern routes will be Chattanooga Choo-Choo trains. All West Coast trains will be called Orient Express. And all other lines will be called Thomas the Tank Engine routes and will include animatronic faces on the fronts of all trains that can answer passenger questions. “This is the reality of operating in Fantasyland today,” will say the Director of the Amtrak Board.

UsToo, #ThemToo and #YouToo will be the new viral social media phenomena.

TRUMP will open on Broadway.
Taylor Swift will be named Democratic Party candidate for POTUS.
Armed teachers will proliferate in rural counties and school districts across the US. So will tactical shooting schools and courses, for teachers and students. Many school districts will open and manage their own shooting ranges. Shooting teams, rifle, pistol and shotgun, precision and tactical, will become the hot new sports in rural schools.
Personal bubbles will become hot new products and services. They will sell by the millions. These will be actual bubbles that people wear when they leave the sanctuary of their homes. They will come in various sizes, colors, and several ballistic and acoustic ratings. They will offer defense not only from bullets and knives, but also from antagonistic ideas, annoying co-workers, troubling truths and mean parents.
Fortnite will unveil a “permanent residence” option, including sustenance, hygiene and employment options, allowing for users to never have to leave the game.
Robots will replace nurses in nursing homes. A majority of residents will claim the robots are better than their “biofamilies.”
The American Baptist Association will re-issue warnings to all faithful to be careful during sex, lest dancing spontaneously happen.
LeBron James will hold a press conference and ask all NBA fans, “How the hell did I become the old man of basketball?” To which Michael Jordan will tweet, “Dude…”
Trump will announce that each US citizen will be issued a firearm of their choice, any make, caliber or model, but with the stipulation that participants must prove that they do not already own any firearms. “We’re not adding to anyone’s collection,” Trump will say at a White House press conference. “We just need more good guys and good gals out there with the tools to engage the bad guys.” “Oh, fuck me,” most law enforcement officers will say to each other.
Tactical body armor with roll over the fashion industry like a ceramic plate typhoon.
Pete Buttigieg and Tulsi Gabbard will be seen leaving a hotel room early one morning after a Democratic Party debate, leading to all sorts of media questions and speculations, and to calls by the Gay and Lesbian Legitimacy Board for investigations.
The American Psychiatric Association will announce that anxiety is actually a treatment for depression.
A report from the Coalition of Conservative Scientists will claim that all existing species of animals, and also some plants, engage in rape, and so did the dinosaurs, and thus it is part of the natural order. “So, get over it.”
Scientific American, Science News and National Geographic will all publish editorials, in response, claiming that the same can be said of homosexual behavior, documented in hundreds of other animals species, in nature. “So, you first.”
Greenland will become the new Florida.
Florida will become the new Atlantis.
Gondoleer will become a hot new job opportunity in Miami, New Orleans and New York.
The entire Sackler family will have their last name legally changed to Gonzalez.
India will announce a new campaign to reform Jammu and Kashmir into the “Indian Switzerland,” complete with quaint mountain villages, lots of ski resorts and hundreds of new mountain gondolas and aerial trams. Prime Minister Modi will announce contests to select a new cheese, new beer and Hindu mountain lederhausen to support the new Jammu and Kashmir brand.
The first SETI signal will be received from aliens claiming that they have Jeffrey Epstein and that they would like to return him. But, they still want to hang onto Elvis for a while longer, if that is OK.
Boeing’s stock will rebound and surge after they rebrand the 737 Max to the 737 Maxine.
Greta Thunberg will appear in the next X-Men movie as ClimaRage and will beat down Magneto with guilt and shame.
Joe Biden will be diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, but will not pull out of the race. “Does it even matter anymore?” he will say at the press conference announcing the diagnosis.
Hong Kong will go dark and become the worlds largest abandoned mall.
Disney will announce its purchase of the Notre Dame Cathedral. The entertainment behemoth will claim that only it has the resources to successfully complete the renovation of the fire-damaged landmark, and the culture to maintain French history and tradition. Tours of the site will begin soon after and will be led by Snow White and Mickey Mouse.
Disney will also announce that it has purchased Stonehenge, the Pyramids, Machu Picchu and the Great Wall of China, and that all these new properties will be anchors for new entertainment megahubs. Disney spokespeople will claim that only Disney has the resources to maintain these historical and cultural marvels, and at the same time better leverage their tourism revenue potentials. And they also have animated feature length movies for each site, coincidentally.
A Religious Liberty bill will be signed into law reassigning all non-Christians to their new Christian denominations. Buddhists will become Baptists. Muslims will become Methodists. The Hindus will become Congregationalists. Mormons will become Presbyterians. “What about us?” the Unitarians will ask in a barely heard voice, to which the official response will be, “Go talk to the Catholics. Maybe they want you.”
Pay day loans, reverse mortgages and high frequency trading will be recognized by the SEC, FTC and Justice Department as key corruptions and cancers to capitalism. Nonetheless, they will spread and proliferate like weeds. New types and styles of snake oils and shell games will join them in the disfigurement of capitalism.
A growing number and majority of stores, restaurants and businesses in general will no longer accept cash, preferring credit cards and digital currency. Most panhandlers, prostitutes and drug dealers will also stop accepting cash and will instead require PayPal, Venmo or Bitcoin.
Surveillance will become ubiquitous as all devices in our lives - phones, doorbells, coffeemakers, tablets, speakers, watches, TVs, thermostats, crockpots, electrical plugs, litter boxes, remote controls, dog collars, security systems, vibrators, cars, weapons, (the list is growing) etc. - will harvest data about our lives and behaviors and feed that data to “data brokers” who analyze and sell that to other corporations. In response to this growing threat, personal data security companies will emerge that will require customers to register their personal data with them and will promise to protect that data. People will fall for this.
Online social influencer and personal data broker will become top paying jobs.
The first inter-species hybrid human will come to light in a gene-splicing lab somewhere in China. It will be either a pigboy or a monkeygirl. Scientific and medical authorities around the world will express their outrage. Meanwhile, millions will clamor to place orders for puppyboys and kittygirls.
The U.S. Department of Defense will officially begin planning strategies to weaponize the Internet. PornhubDoD.mil will be announced as the “nuclear option.”
The Republican and Democratic parties will assume new nicknames, the Hatfields and McCoys. “Oh, puh-lease,” will say 89-year-old Dolly Hatfield, granddaughter of “Devil” Anse Hatfield, of Possum Holler, Kentucky, to reporters from her nursing home, “we was never as bad as all them DC politicians. They’re downright crazy. We was just a mite pissed off.”
Dating apps will go the way of porn magazines as mating algorithms begin populating our phones and browsers with photos of candidates in our lane, based on various demographic variables. Amazon and Google will provide online weddings, will even provide avatars to act as bridesmaid and best-man.
Digisex will trend as the new safe alternative to physical sex.
The $15.5 trillion US corporate debt bubble, 74% of US GDP, will burst, throwing the US into economic chaos. Celebrations, by those who have dreamed of the event, will be short-lived when it is realized that no one’s phones work.
Nancy Pelosi and Bill Maher will be the first residents to check in at a luxurious new reeducation camp outside of Fairbanks. The string of new American Gulags with be a booming new industry and will provide many jobs for patriotic Alaskans.
Many US churches will begin installing security checkpoints, gun emplacements and sniper overwatch.
Many schools will implement TCPs, Traffic Control Points, manned by armed security personnel, except at rural schools, where TCPs will be manned by armed teachers and parents, and in some districts, students.
The PSC, Private Security Corporation, industry will surge and boom like a high school band at halftime at a Friday night football game.
High school bands will begin wearing tactical body armor at Friday night halftimes.
Hillary Clinton will finally reveal the location of Jimmy Hoffa’s body. “I told her not to do it!” Bill will say at her trial.
Trump will get reelected and will immediately sign an executive order establishing The Department of Truth, whose mandate will be to officially and legally determine which facts are truths and which are lies. Using the term “alternative facts” will become illegal.
The Democratic Party candidates for president will switch from debates to playing concerts as a band, during which each gets a solo spotlight, during which they have 5 minutes to play their instrument and riff on politics. Squabbles over who plays lead guitar and the drums will follow the band throughout their tour. Buttigieg will never stop complaining about having to play the flute.
A startup company will release a new product called the Emonilometer, which will measure a person’s emotional and spiritual depth and flow. Various plans ands price points will be available. Sales will soar as customers catch on that the more you pay the deeper your flow. (Note: A “nilometer” is used to measure river depth and flow, was first used by the ancient Egyptians.)
Multiple sources within the White House will claim that Trump’s favorite new phrase is “It’s good to be the king.” Sources close to Mel Brooks will claim that his favorite new phrase is, “Oy vey.”
A new extinct human species will be discovered. Homo idioticus will answer a lot of burning questions regarding the human tree of evolution, and the current state of humanity.
The collapse of the dairy industry, due to unmanageable costs and ratios, will lead scientists and farmer to look for other sources of milk, beyond almond and oat. New options will include shark milk, beetle milk, flamingo milk and even spider milk, for which demand will quickly out-strip supplies, due to consumers hoping for spider super powers.
A joint Chinese-Israeli-SpaceX project will start building a lunar station on the moon. The station will be focused on research and mining, but also will offer “Do It On the Moon” romantic get-away packages for couples.
The Labor Secretary will quip during a press conference that “retirement is for pussies.”
US Space Command will begin selecting and training its first class of Space Rangers.
LSD and psilocybin will be the new cure-all super-drugs, for everything from depression, addiction and dementia. Doctors and pharmacists will take to referring to these as Timothy Leary treatments. Members of the Leary family will demand a cut of the action.
Coach Orgeron and LSU will replace Saban and Alabama as the defining college football program, and will set new standards in 2020 when LSU becomes the first to sign a QB right out of middle school. Other schools will soon follow.
Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders will make a soft porn short film together in an attempt to connect with American voters.
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[Sticky] What needs to be done?

Work to do. . Establishment of sacraments and rituals and much more need to be done yet. I have my work cut out for me, but this subReddit is established so that others can contribute to the founding of the church, it's doctrine, rituals, guidelines, and even music. Much strategy will be discussed here, even after the church is firmly established, so this forum will have a long term use. Here is a (probably incomplete) list of what we need to do before my target date of September 24, 2018 but hopefully sooner. The list is taken from here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/start-your-own-church_us_55d24635e4b07addcb43bd60 . "The IRS also states that your church must have some combination of the following: . 1 - Distinct legal existence (register as a 503C non-profit corporation.) 2 - Recognized creed and form of worship (help from religious scholars) 3 - Definite and distinct ecclesiastical government (we will be decentralized) 4 - Distinct religious history (I'm already writing it and may need help) 5 - Formal code of doctrine and discipline (we as a group will work on this with help from religious scholars) 6 - Membership not associated with any other church or denomination (not applicable) 7 - Established place of worship (We will not have this Until we are legal but Kickstarter project anyone? the timing must be right though so we wait) 8 - Regular services (Probably the equinoxes, solstices, and founder's day but open for discussion) 9 - Ordained, commissioned or licensed ministers (we as a group will work on this with help from religious scholars) 10 - Schools for the preparation of its ministers (we will have training but not a school anytime soon) 11 - Literature of its own (we as a group will work on this) 12 - Sunday schools for religious instruction of the young (not applicable, and we are not going there) 13 - Organized worship (not worship but music ministry, we as a group will work on this) . Meanwhile, in order to be tax-exempt, your church: . 14 - must not conduct political lobbying or intervene to win political campaigns (no problem) 15 - must not engage in illegal activities (more on this in the next paragraph) 16 - must not financially benefit any private individual or shareholder (no problem)" . For very specific and detailed discussions of these points, please start a new thread. Make general comments in this thread. . Regarding point 15, currently illegal sacraments will not be issued by the church until religious exemption is approved. Marijuana and some other sacraments may be decriminalized in certain states. Your travel expenses to these states will be tax deductible. After speaking to a lawyer we may adopt a policy of bring your own sacraments at your own risk, until we get approval. Adherents will self-administer all sacraments. Our Doctors will then only be performing harm reduction in accordance with the oath that they have taken. This is all up for debate depending on the legal advice we get, and may even vary by state or municipality. We must tread lightly to retain tax-exempt status. The church will not be in the business of advising people to get sacraments or where specifically to get them if asked, but we may oversee the use of them if we won't be held liable. The official statement of the church is to travel out of country to a place where you may acquire them legally, and that when you are there, a possible way to get sacraments is through the dark web. The church may anonymously send out some messages to unrelated individuals behind the scenes in legal countries to let them know that there may be a new demand for certain entheogens. We will take no other actions and provide no other specific information on this. . We will probably not even go this route based on recent information but, Regarding legal approval of sacraments, today I learned that the DEA has a form where religious groups can apply to be licensed just as pharmacies and scientific researchers commonly do. I found this information here. http://www.maps.org/news/bulletin/articles/387-bulletin-spring-2015/5669-the-globalization-of-ayahuasca-public-policy-considerations If anyone knows where this specific form is, please let me know. We already plan on being denied for at least some if not all of the sacraments. This may start a court case if we apply and are denied, as soon we are firmly established, and can afford it. We may actually not even go this application route, depending on what we see with others who have. Some of the reasoning is covered in the comments below of this post: https://www.reddit.com/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/77rnie/specific_legalusa_a_potentially_strong_legal/ . . . . . The purpose of this subreddit. Let's use this subreddit to help to establish the doctrine of the spiritual movement, and discuss the legal, medical, and spiritual issues that will arise. This means that this subreddit will be private, maybe permanently (I will start a public one later) and will be by invitation only. Hopefully we can attract doctors, at least a few lawyers, students of religion and spirituality, mindful psychonauts, and others that might be able to contribute thoughtfully to the discussion. . If you know of someone who might be of help to this subreddit, please refer them to myself or any of the moderators. We will want to know who they are, why they are interested, and how they can contribute. They do not have to be current redditors, but this makes it easier to vet them. We are looking for healthy people who are not contrary by nature (they can disagree with things but must be able to provide constructive criticism, agree to disagree, and do so respectfully.) I am visiting the perfect city to make all this happen... New York City, and have already made a few connections in the past that may help us. . . . . . I am specifically looking for the following people now or in the near future: . - Doctor who pursues drug policy in the USA (and eventually everywhere.) - Doctors who practice in NYC, and studies or has studied any of the entheogens on our list for medical purposes and believes it is an answer (and eventually every state and country.) - Lawyer who practices administrative law for religious institutions in the US (and eventually everywhere.) - Lawyer who practices defense of anyone who has used drugs in a religious context in NY (and eventually every state and country.) So far I have NM covered by a former UDV lawyer. - Doctors and Lawyers who have personal experience using psychedelics and/or administering them are definitely a plus, but not required. Some psychedelics help to spur outside-the-box thinking which can be very helpful for the legal and medical obstacles that we will face. - People from other countries where our sacraments are legal. I want you to be among the first initiates. It would also be great, but not necessary, if you own property or buildings that could be used temporarily or permanently for church services on occasion. . Sooner or later and in NYC first, then other places: . - Technologist who creates and maintains webpages, web applications, and wants to branch into other technology. Apps, Web Security, Physical Security systems. I could help with some of this, but I cannot be the primary person. - Public Relations Person who knows how to take all of our information and present a smooth public face that the people can get behind. Someone who could do a TedTalk on this. - Musician for the minister of music. I am not sure yet but I think our music might be instrumental, so someone heavy on percussion and dance is ideal. I do have someone in mind already. Hint: "Have a beautiful NOW!" ;) - Ministers who feel called, want to help people in various ministries, and may be interested in guiding a service. - Elders, Volunteers, Council members, anyone else you can find in a church or spiritual movement. . If we ever become legal: . - Finance person who can be treasurer and also do accounting and fund raising. - People person who can also do Human Resources and Administrative work and likes to facilitate events. - Project Manager who is a people person and can help with scheduling, getting stuff done, and tracking projects in a way that serves and helps others in our ministry. - Groundskeeper who can do building maintenance, cleaning, and also oversee a greenhouse eventually. . - Surely others will be needed. Who do we need to start this? Maybe you can put yourself forth and make a proposal. We will likely start in New York City, but another place may be more favorable legally. . . . . . Raising Money . And last but not least, I have some ideas on how to raise money. Some ways may not even cost you anything. . - Create a portal of referral links to where you do your online shopping. Many places like Amazon, Guitar Center, and maybe even eBay, pay out a small percentage if they are referred by a link. This is how bloggers make money hawking products. So why don't you click one of our links directing you to the site before shopping that site. It won't even cost you anything, and it was money you were going to spend anyways. . - Do what this non-profit is doing and start an ISP https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/calyx-institute-offering-unlimited-unthrottled-sprint-service/ . - I may be able to get gift cards cheap for resale. I need to look into this and I am a bit skeptical about it. . - Dues will not be required for membership in the church, but if you want to be an active member, dues are $44 a year, and yes active members will get some benefit from that, like help finding an experienced lawyer if needed to defend the use of our sacraments in a ritual. Also, we will put together a network of doctors who feel comfortable performing harm reduction for Ibogaine self-administration and possibly other sacraments. We pool our money as a group to help the afflicted and to protect the few that may find themselves in trouble. There will be other benefits as well, to be determined by you. Do you believe in what we are doing? If so put your money where your mouth is. I started this spiritual movement with $44 of my own. . Members will be allowed to make donations by PayPal, Bitcoin and maybe other services. Once we are approved as a nonprofit, print your PayPal receipts for dues and donations and use them for a tax exemption. . We need to brainstorm for other ideas. . Warmest Regards, Sebastian . P.S. Continue to this thread about how the church will be structured... (Click this and read the bold if you are just scanning.) https://www.reddit.com/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/75j9tk/general_spiritual_how_will_the_church_be/
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[Table] IamA Hacker for the Government(s) AMAA!

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Date: 2013-12-25
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Was there a time when you felt demoralized because of your job? Over 15 years, there are times when you aren't succesfull. Example, we were tracking a terrorist group and one of the actors popped up on our radar from his Aim traffic (yes aol instant messenger) and the gist of it is, he suspected we were after them and they made the decision to kill their hostages then and there across the wire. By the time we sent someone in to the location we identified they were dead.
I would love to share stories with you. You sound like you've been around the block. :) Oh that I have, too many to be honest. That's why I like the desk work much more.
What's the most fucked up thing you've found on an "victims" compute server? I've seen death footage, child pornography, bestiality, pretty much everything you'd find online. I think the footage that always bothered me was footage where you saw victims looking in the camera. This goes for anything seen anywhere, seeing the real despair in their eyes ages your soul quickly.
When you found these videos & photos, what are you required to do with them? Is there some database to store all the shit found? In most instances we archive them. It's important to realize that we don't just jump on and grab everything. Ideally we pull the least amount of data necessary and many times it takes hours due to bandwidth limiting / restrictions we place to stay under the radar. In the case of pulling a video, you better have a good justification for that much utilization. In that case we did, so it was archived.
What is it like compared to movies/tv? It's long hours of a black screen with white text. I wish I could send animated rabits and cookie monsters.
What is your daily schedule like? Daily schedule is based on work i'm doing. We're always on call and i've pulled a few days - weeks at my desk sleeping on a cot before with very little leaving the office.
HACK THE PLANET. I'm surprised you didn't chose They're Trashing our rights
<--- Insert Orbital - Halcyon and on and on -
What would you have to be monitoring that closely that you'd have to sleep at the computer? Waiting for a "callback" or response from a computer your operating on, waiting for an opportunity, or possibly a Humint resource to do his task. Maybe i'm on call for troops on the ground.
Hackers, my all time fav movie. It's a great one. So cheesy but in a good way. Whenever someone made a noob error or comment at work our collective punishment was to make them watch that in the background on their next operation. That lasted about two weeks. .. Sometime later the Nyan Cat popped up for an 8 hour rotation. Last time I saw anything non news playing on the screens.
Interesting , so if you were providing support to troops on the ground what sort of things would that entail? thanks for your response! Well you could be monitoring for insurgent chatter, maybe you're there to help take down obstacles electronically. If I can do something that keeps troops out of harms way it's worth losing sleep. Maybe they're their to dispatch a small drone to get me closer access or something. Who knows, let your mind run. It'll probably hit one or two correct ideas ;)
Fuckin' Nyan cat Thank god it wasn't Nein cat. that would have gone over like a fart in church!
How's the Intersect Project going? Daniel Shaw stole it last I heard.
3) What risks do Intel structures that lack transparency have of being captured by undemocratic interests? And how would that capture affect our society? And how could that be reversed? 5) Why do you think people continue to adhere to the illusion that we are separate from one another? 6) what will the world look like in 10 years? 100 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years? 1) Nope, the risk is all my own. 2) The fragile dependance on electronics in general 3) The risk is lower than you'd think, but a risk none the less. Domestically it wouldn't crush us as it's just not how things are setup. Internationally, they're all already doing the same thing. 4). I think it's a bit of both. I know a cop out answer. I think whom you're born to or where you're born can give you advantages in life, making it much harder for honest hard working individuals to reap the same benefits. I think technology is the gift changing that. All the old rules really don't apply. Any kid in his basement as often said, could be the next billionaire. 5) I think people over estimate their individual importance. No species survives because of one, it's because of group effort and sacrifice. Free will sorta messes this up a bit. 6) 10 years, I hope we've really made 3d printing economical and domestic goods are able to be produced as cheaply and efficiently as foreign made goods. 100 years, I hope we have the ability transcend more of our differences. Africa as a continent has been given new life, partially restored to it's pre imperialist state. That we've eradicated many diseases and can cure if not manage cancer to where it's negligible.
Note: This is a hypothetical situation produced merely to satiate my curiosity. I do not condone any illicit activities, nor do I mean to imply that I have participated in anything similar to the scenario about to be described. Let's say I buy a laptop, giving the store I bought it from false information. I then log onto a public wi-fi source. Let's say I have my face concealed the whole time and avoid identification via cameras. I hack into major corporations with this laptop and copy, and subsequently distribute sensitive data. I do not do this at the same location twice, and I am constantly moving. I use a random number generator to determine my next location. How would you catch me? That's a good question, Every attacker has a profile or standard modus operandi so to speak. That said, unless it was something that impacted the federal government directly (or someone in a powerful position) chances are it wouldn't even cross my radar. You'd be surprised though how many people slip up with careless mistakes. Things like not forwarding their DNS requests as well as traffic, or using the same pitch / tunnel for personal work.
Let's say I was publishing classified information from governments of the top 20 most powerful nations in the world and my modus operandum was "you can't catch me!" being left everywhere I visit, in combination with total anonymity. You'd basically just wait for me to slip up? You'd be one of hundreds of targets being analyzed.
You start by working with what you know, locations, data types, pretty much any info and start filling back from there. In all actuality it could take years and likely it would be a slip up.
Interesting: If you're a hacker for governments (and do people say hacker??), one wonders why you're breaking the rule to talk about it when you don't actually want to say anything substantial in the first place. That's a tough question, I would say that yes in the end it is. Now the tough part is where do you draw the line? The US constitution primarily applies to us citizens and that affords certain legal protections for its citizens. Alternatively, look at the EU where they grandfather every person in the world regardless of their citizenship. It's these varying policies that make it murky water.
I guess my first question is why are you doing this AMA when you can't actually give us insight into what you do? Because I don't think that question will be very productive, I have a more academic one about cybersecurity as warfare vs cybersecurity as intelligence. Mis information is just as powerful as truthful information. No one needs to know everything and honestly that sheltered bubble is what makes our way of living here work. That said, there is always a place for reform and regulation to protect citizens. When it comes to protecting and minimizing, there is a pretty well accepted standard that a lot of the world follows. There are however a few people that are selfish and fail to look at the impact on a global scale. Any excessive electronic warfare will have residual effects that can far outweigh the gains.
question: Do you think that cybersecurity is an extension of intelligence (i.e., everything is fair game) – which is implied through cyber being an extension of technological enabling intelligence methods – or of international conflict (i.e. warfare), which triggers a number of international laws and norms? Where we start is by educating people to protect themselves. The majority of successful attacks aren't extremely sophisticated, but merely rely on the lack of basic knowledge of users. We should probably invest here as well, it would certainly create a higher level of difficulty for the average cyber criminal.
If the former, i.e., intelligence, why is there such a disjunction between the media and public (who see things like international spying as illegitimate, confronting, immoral, etc) and those who are educated about international relations (who understand that spying is part of the international system)? Moreover, how can we reduce this disjunction and make the public realise that countries spy on each other, that it's a norm, and that it serves a purpose for the country and for the international system? If the later, i.e., warfare, how do we then go on to create a framework of laws and norms that will help guide cyber-warfare in such a way that it minimises harm to civilians, focuses on outcomes, operates within a relatively predictable system, and so on? I think a large part of the disparity lies exactly on what the public knows. Disinformation can work to your benefit to. I.
I don't really understand, though: do you think cybersecurity is mainly warfare or intelligence? Intelligence, but once again If I found out you were in my network i'd be mad. Some will retaliate, others know it's part of the game. That's what makes it Warfare. The hard attacks on critical infrastructure, that could be deemed warfare because the only beneficial outcome is destruction / immobility etc.
Say you find a key to a bazillion bitcoin wallet on a terrorist's computer do you transfer it to your wallet or the government's wallet? ... assuming the gov't has a wallet. That's a good question. I'd have to be a long con, i'm pretty sure a transfer that large would be noticed by the majority of the bitcoin universe.
I will say this, black op funds are just that. Not everything is funded from traditional financing. Think of it like this, cops often use drug dealers cars and re purpose them. This sometimes happens for us too. Though never direct, usually into generic fund pools.
Can you provide my personal details via pm? :3 Nope couldn't even if I wanted to. It'd break a few laws and regulations. Plus everyone deserves their privacy :D
Either way, I'm afraid to down vote you. Well I may have told Kim Jon-Un to put his army at the ready! Good choice : )
Plus everyone deserves their privacy. Coming from a hacker. Who works for the government. Y ^ ___ ^ Doesn't mean I don't believe it ;)
Hahah i hope i wasn't offensive brother, i was just pointing out the irony in the conversation. made me chuckle. No offense taken :D.
It's definitely ironic. Plus i'm sure plenty think i'm just some shill to say the government is great and infallible.
Do you have any favorite stories from your work? I understand if you can't disclose any of that but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask! Well one fun one is, we one evening while I was working on a project we broke out into what started as an impromptu nerf/soft toy war and ended up becoming this crazy venting point (as i'm sure happens everywhere), usually not a problem after hours. The problem was as soon as someone went crazy and started throwing foam footballs one of the Senior aids to the President walked in un-announced. This was crazy because it just doesn't happen like that, there's always a heads up and and an entourage with everyone putting on their a game. We all just stood there with a "whats up" look not realizing who they were.
It wasn't until after the incident in the next days morning brief that we were informed. Apparently he though it was funny.
How do you "hack" these people, lets say they run linux or whatever? Or is it on the people using aol and unpatched windows xp that are easy ones? I would say a large part is simple laziness on the targets perspective. Work smarter not harder. Things like using FTP with credentials in the clear text. On the harder tasks, maybe there's a human intelligence piece, maybe there's a targeted attacked on a lateral target (girlfriend or mother that may use their systems). There are hundreds of possibilities. There isn't one system that is weaker, it's the implementation and adherence to security policies that are the keys to the city.
What do you make of the 9/11 conspiracy theories? Most are crap, it was truly a horrific terrorist attack. I won't deny that it increased spending in the Intel community, but there were plenty of things already in motion kicking that off.
Have you seen the other videos from the pentagon other than 1fps vidoe released? Everyone knows there are more than just that video that could be released. Why are those videos not released? (if you know). There's always the thought and notion of more videos. If they exist they're well hidden and covered.
There is always a possibility of a larger darker conspiracy, i'll be the first to admit it. I can promise though that something like that wouldn't stay hidden for long, too many people with immense emotions attached to it.
Most are crap. It's a generic statement as i'm not aware of every theory, therefore I can't comment on each one.
Not sure if the conspiracy nuts are right, but I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I mean fuck sake we still have JFK docs that are classified. I agree, there are a lot of the older generational classified docs that really make no sense. We've come a long way and we have along way to go.
Well played, in the nicest way possible: when you hack for politics you start to speak like a politician :P. And that is one of our problems. We're segmented. Those that can speak in groups and the techies. It's vary hard to traverse both and that's where many redditors can make an impact. Even if they grasp 1/3 of what we're talking about, it's more than the average person knows. On the plus side, my mom can't tell a pc from a toaster and even she's afraid of virus's. Though she though Norton caused them, because of what she heard on NPR. :P.
The hackers I've met/been all have about 1/3rd of your social skills.
What's the most corrupt country? Have anything bad happened to you in the times of your career? What is it feel like being a hacker? I mentioned on another question corrupt is subjective. I would say the worse the human rights violations are the worse the actor.
I have had bad things happen, i've made mistakes and taken gambles that didn't always pay off as I'd like.
I consider it a job of learning daily and for that sole fact it's great!
Could you walk me through what exactly you do in your line of work? If I wanted to steal money of a bank website, how exactly would I go about that? Would I have to do the cliché'd "find their admin page" whatever, and if I made off with the money, would I have to patch it up with fake code? Are you a complete white hat, or a few spots of grey here and there? As far as a database, likely the original analyst would have tasked up and researched a lot of the information i'd need. Systems and their related com info (ip etc) and usually they would have already had an advanced vulnerability scan performed. From there i'd attempt to leverage an exploit through some means (attack directly or in most instances latterly) , priv escalate, do a bunch of recon and most likely sit on it for a few days. No one is every numb to what is going on, it's their level of response that you worry about. I won't comment on specific individuals or groups.
May be you can do a little favor here, Bro Hug I wish I could tell you one way or the other. I've been there and it sucks.
The girl I m dating - is she currently seeing someone else or is it just a suspicion, Who did she call last night? I'd hope she called family or an old friend to wish them well for the holidays.
Are you a wizard? Well I can make packets do tricks, but I suck and spells.
So a Muggle with a stolen broken wand maybe?
I've actually had my eye on computer science and specifically network security and would love to get some info or pointed towards some resources that you'd recommend? :) I'd say it 10% school and 90% on the job. Reach out to your school network admins / comp sci departments and get that hands on time. If you have passion, you'll make it.
Thanks so much. :) I've actually been putting in the effort to reach out to my school IT to see if I could follow him around, and then I mess around on the comp quite often(being all the time), so there's that haha. You rock man! A good cheap learning method is a Virtual Lab - the Deice iso's are great.
People specialize in different focus's here. We have the firewall / router guys, the unix guys, the windows guys, the web app guys etc.. Find something that intrigues you and sponge it up!
Best of luck!
You said you've worked around the globe. What was the biggest shithole that you've been to? As for the various governments, do they themselves think of the work you do as more glamorous than it really is? (Do the expect you to just "hack" your way through anything?) Thanks for the AMA! Biggest shithole, probably Western Sahara figuratively and literally.
Yes the majority of policy / decision makers in the various forms of government are very far from understanding what's going on let alone how it's handled. I think this is where a lot of questionable or confusing statements are made. Sadly, you're taught to give a presentation to the lowest possible denominator (aim for a 4th grade level and build up as needed). It really is time we re-assess and move younger more tech savy individuals into the decision making process. Limit the duration on congressional and senate terms, bring in the young blood.
One time we mirrored one computer across multiple systems (and I mean dozens) and sat whomever we could find in a chair to pretend otherwise they would think it was impossible for small teams to handle an operation. It really is a dog and pony show and that detracts from quality work and decision making.
I'm not an ageist, there are a few that get it, most though are playing the politics game and trying to make a few bucks with no real interests.
How common is it for government hackers to be former black hats? Not very common, Most would fail the background checks.
JESTER? Feigned ignorance is bliss. You can deny deny deny.
Just kidding... Actually, I'm curious. We hear about high-profile cyber activists working for Russia, China, Eastern Europe, etc and they often seem to have some sort of governmental support. How much does the government know about pro-government hackers operating within its borders? That's all I'll say on that one.
I would think they might be supported and possibly even receive coordination so they don't interfere with official government ops, but are you able to elaborate? There are instances where internal groups will battle each other for credibility in those countries, that's always fun to watch. The power struggle, the victor and the spoils. All the while emotions cause sloppiness.
How did you start hacking? Hacking is a generic term. I think anyone intrigued by how things work and follows through with learning is essentially hacking their mind. So in that regard I went that way. I learned a lot messing with Bulletin board systems in the early 90's, that's also where I learned the power of social engineering and leveraging resources. From there it was school and then work applying everything up to that point.
I don't know if it's been asked already.. But, how much money do you make per year? Federal pay scales are made public, there's the GS system band with multiple variables and then it goes extended. There are also Private entities owned and operated that sub contract to the government for certain positions as well. This is to keep pay fair and commensurate.
My highest pay i've held private was just shy of $200k. For the Government the average for a 5 -7 year analyst is GS9-11 pay. Most of us started at GS 13 depending on experience. It's convoluted. I'm not going to revel my pay band and or stepping now because of identifiable information. Bottom line is you can make good money. The positions advertised will give you the starting ranges.
Why do the goverments work against each other? Instead of doing the next step towards a better world, we basicly are on a good way to extinct ourselfs. Or is it a fight against corrupt goverments? It's all about power plain and simple. Always will be as long as man has free will and the ability to want more.
Is there any "truth" being spread out there about the govt/whatever you do that you'd like to refute because it's just too exaggerated? No one has the time to listen to phone calls or read the emails of everyone in the world.
Lets stop and think about how much data that is, then how many man hours it would take. Just not feasible. It's like throwing a rock at the moon and hoping to hit it (even though we know it'd never make it). It's very specific and focused or else it'd be a waste of resources.
What questions should we be asking? Whatever you want I'll censor what I need to.
No, my question was what should I ask you? I'm obviously not as informed as you are, and my questions would be superficial at best and terribly ignorant at worst. I don't know enough to even comprehend what I don't know. Well, you can ask me about clarity with anything in the leaked docs. Ask about anything you want really.
So I asked you, what questions I should be asking. So if you were me, what would you want to know and ask about? What's important knowledge? A question I'd always ask is, do you consider yourself good or evil? To which I replied, it's subjective. One countries hero is another's terrorist. I like to think I live a moral life, but as we know morality is a flawed notion.
What'd the attitude towards snowden and what he did? I think information is important and some should be shared. I think in the context of Snowden, the issue you have is he didn't work in any of the directorates he stole from, nor was he privy to all the info. It's easy to paint a picture when certain parts are withheld. I believe he did what he felt was right and that's what matters to him.
I will say that these things often backfire though making things much worse in the long run. Things will be more compartmentalized and it will make it harder for those of us that have concerns to voice them and address them.
maybe you shouldn't break the law (the 4th amendment) and someone with clearance won't have to leave the country to tell the truth. Well that's it. Any data acquired would be through appropriate warrants through the FISA courts. Accidental collect is legal as long as it's not actioned upon and properly disposed of. I'm not going to comment on him as a person as I don't know him, but despite claims by the media there are measures in place. Nothing being done has been done without government approval or sanction. It's very easy to paint a picture to your liking when you limit your pallet to only the colors you like.
Maybe you should just tell congress, anonymously if needed or just inform the press like Snowden did.
Any data acquired would be through appropriate warrants through the FISA courts. Remember your data is traversing public infrastructure privately owned and operated, which makes it even stickier. Logging on any firewall would be metadata.
This also ignores the vast data collected on all Americans, I do not care if you or anyone considered meta data fair game, it is a violation of 4th amendment because I know for a fact you do not have a warrant for such collection of every American. I agree with your concerns, but unfortunately you don't have all the facts and honestly that's what needs to change for everyone. There is a need for more transparency I agree. But there will always be limits.
Can you hear a good story about you shitting your pants? I have lots of them myself, but this thread isn't about me. So... I've literally shit my pants more than once (though that was usually because of shitty 3rd world sanitation and food quality),
One time while on an operation in the field my laptop got hit by a 7.62 round. That made me pucker up a slight bit. Fortunately most work was from the safety of a desk and that wasn't too often.
Do you have any information that is secret/classified that would shock the general public if it were released? I think anything could be shocking given the wrong context. You would be surprised at how many people are really victims to fraud and more so the businesses unaware of the IP theft. I once sat in on a meeting with a firm trying to sell a multi million dollar platform to the government, only they didn't realize we had already pulled the source code of a foreign adversary network.
What branch of the government do you officially work for. Is it NSA, CIA, FBI or something more mundane? I work for the US IC community. I've performed operations for all three and each of them are different, the tools, techniques, procedures all have restrictions and specific requirements. I mostly operate CNE which by default is an NSA covered operation.
Thanks for the answers. I guess I never really thought about how big and involved fraud and IP theft is, but once you say it, it makes perfect sense. Everyone always says numbers are exaggerated. Their not, no one knows how much, but i've seen billions personally.
Could you talk about the data gathering practices of private companies? One company in the valley had a cluster with multiple petabytes of raw live user data that anyone could perform research on with no restrictions. In addition to acccess to live data as needed.
It was the wild west there, and they wondered why hackers were exfiling so much data. Sigh
It's probably not who you think either.
Do you have teams developing and banking 0 days for different ops? What % of your attack vectors would you say are technical intrusion vs. social engineering. Have you ever 'framed' other agencies or groups with noisy callbacks to known group / agency cnc? Would you agree that most "protection" is essentially useless vs a targeted attack? Can't comment on most of these.
I would say social engineering / user error is a vast majority of our luck (or at least getting through layer 1/ outer network perimeter).
Imitation is flattery, subvert the subverted or something like that.
Yes, most targeted attacks will succeed. Actually most attacks will, give the right time and resources (bankroll to buy time / equipment / 0days etc).
Hacker or IA? Because offensive hacking is not an every IC branch ordeal. Contractor or civilian? And by hack, do you mean CNA or CNE? Or just analysis after the red team has done their thing? I can ask a million questions but they don't really matter much without the previous being answered. The operations are directed by the IC in charge. Each agency has its own rights and restrictions. 99% of the work is CNE across the IC. CNA is not something that's just done on a whim, it requires a lot of boxes to be checked by a lot of people. Most CNA would be field related operations in a somewhat controlled environment. There isn't a whole, lets take down wallstreet time operation going on, more of the shut down these forums, or this communications tower etc.
Rarely is CNA directly authorised or sanctioned. If so those operations are directed by military personnel
Hi, and thanks for your AMA. You've answered a few times questions regarding enrolment, degrees or "how do you get into this field". I'm wondering if you could tell us more about the background checks. What's in them? What findings during a background check would be a deal-breaker? Are they executed right after you apply somewhere (i.e. right after you sent an email, before you get any replies)? Like some previous screening? Or rather when you've already been considered for an interview and it becomes an integral part of the interview process? Background checks are interesting. There are your traditional screenings for your security clearance. Depending on the level, you may go back 2 years, 7, 13 or even more if you're getting specific caveat access. Additionally there are routine background checks during your employment. The more sensitive the job, the more frequent. Sometimes they'll do them before they even approach you about specific opportunities. Sometimes you'll have plants in your office there specifically to observe you in your normal habbit. It's pretty sur-real sometimes.
Blondes or brunettes? Brunettes, though I'm never one to turn away a beautiful woman.
What is your favorite port? Favorite port... that's a tough one, depends too much on network restrictions I might face so there's never really anything consistent. I will say it's better to hide in plain sight in some instances.
When you say private security firms are you talking about Booz and the bigger guys who contract desk jobs? Or are you talking about Xe/Blackwater which contracts people downrange? I didn't think those guys were involved in any sort of intelligence work. Both. Xe is definitely in Intel, i'm pretty sure they have job postings for it. Humint is still intel for the IC (aka boots on the ground). Most of the Xe guys are ex operators too. We have had our fair share of people looking at screens saying this is awesome looks good (when it was really just an MRTG diagram or a Nagios system status etc.) They all fake the funk when they visit the IC community and their varying offices.
How many times do you type "nmap" on any given day? Fellow Hacker. Trick question.. anything repeated more than twice you script ;)
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